Thank you, Mark. As always, you capture my every sentiment. We are on the same page 100%. I fear what the ultimate results will be when the emperor is finally exposed! I hate him above all others and wish him a slow, painful death. And that last part goes for all Demoncrats and Libtards. May the whole lot rot in HELL.
NEVER FORGET... it’s not over... it just went underground for the time being... the kids are still in the crosshairs... American Rescue Plan edu funding ESSER 3.0 contingent on mitigation plan & compliance ... states revising kids vax statutes to require ... in California pending SB 871 adding COVID to required vax list & ELIMINATION of ALL EXEMPTIONS including MEDICAL & BELIEF... this charade will be back
MIT just published a report that insinuates we have massive health problems ahead due to the covid injections (I don't call them "vaccines" because they are not). MY DIL is a pharmacist and she forbade everyone in the family to take the covid shots. A year ago she predicted all the potential problems that MIT just published.
And the medical industry will clean up with tons of additional specialist visits/tests for determination of new/different health issues and cures. They gonna clean up (had to say it again).
@JesseKellyDC did a monologue in the same spirit as Mark’s. I have wanted to say this to certain friends/family but have refrained. Not sure how much longer I can continue this way. To be fair, none of them have treated me badly. But I have noticed some friends don’t contact me any more after they found out I was unvaxd. I am retired so that takes out the workplace scenario. Aside from vitriolic posts on social media, I have avoided the venom. I quit most social media bc of this. https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1499572839384420355
Addendum: A couple who my husband and I used to be close friends with, invited me over for dinner 3/5. This was the first time in over a year. After my husband passed in late ‘19, they had me over fairly frequently. I guess they feel a little more comfortable around me after recent developments. The husband proceeded to say that while he didn’t agree with mandates, anyone who didn’t get the jab is “a complete idiot”. He knows I didn’t get it. His wife sat there quietly nodding. He and I had a heated debate (she remained quiet). We managed to move on to other less controversial things to salvage the evening. This is the kind of soft vitriol that I have felt from some friends. It’s not horrible in-your-face hatred but stings nonetheless.
I'm sorry that happened to you but I'm glad you stood up to him. So many of my clients have made off-hand remarks about the stupidity or insanity of people not getting the injection WHILE I was serving them, KNOWING I hadn't had it and wasn't planning to get it. I've since lost 80% of my business because of this crap, and although I wish I could go back in time and have my job the way it used to be, I really don't want to have anything to do with people who think and treat others like that. It hurts when you find out you didn't really know people at all.
Lisa, sorry to hear that you lost 80% of your business (hairdresser? Not sure what you do). My hairdresser had to close her business bc she lost many customers. I went to her for over 20 years. I’m glad things have eased up but it’s any uneasy calm. I fear that “they” will ramp up again when the time is right.
That was pretty much ‘in your face’ from him...arguing with an AH is a waste of time as he thinks he’s superior. I’d avoid their presence and find nicer friends.
Biden isn't smart enough to be ''The Emperor" even while engaged in his most corrupt, perverted, treasonous activities. The person we are calling (P)Resident is not who you think he is. Pay close attention to every video you see of him and observe closely. I can differentiate between 3 actors (Arthur Roberts is easy) but I understand he has up to 5 or more. Larry is no longer one of them. The Emperor is not The Kenyan, either. They are the puppets. Unmask the Puppet Master and you'll be cutting off the head of the snake. In fact, I'm surprised Bidet and The Kenyan are still breathing air. Most loyal military wouldn't tolerate such treason.
I pray for grace and the ability to forgive. Everything you say is true, and I hope that there is justice and recognition. But I want the ability to forgive. No one provided true "informed consent"; instead, they provided consent based on talking points that were not backed by the materials that have been available. Too many took this out of fear, others because of the fear of social ostracization, the desire to travel, many took it to keep their jobs. Some of that group will wake up and realize they were duped, and they will be angry. Many will live with the guilt that they consented (under coercion) to something that caused them or a loved one, maybe even their child, harm. Those people deserve our forgiveness and grace. Others, who profited, who knowingly lied, should be brought to justice. But I need to forgive those who have harmed me and excluded me because of my choice; I need to do it for me and not for them. So I pray for grace. And I remain thankful that God gave me COVID, took away my fear, and spoke to me through His word: Psalms 146:3, 1 Corinthians 2:5, Proverbs 3:5-6, just to name a few. "So that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God's power." 1 Corinthians 2:5
This is a powerful response Jennifer. I’m feeling the same way. I want to forgive. That’s what the story of Jesus is all about, and it is powerful.
I’m struggling with how to do it. Not sure how to proceed. How do you forgive while not forgetting? Can you forgive without the other party being contrite?
Forgiveness is a completely personal thing, the way Jennifer and I have been discussing it here. I can forgive in my heart, but not forget. That's the key there, forgiving but not forgetting and not letting it happen again. Is it possible? That's what we've been discussing.
Here's where I am right now:
I am in no way speaking to, or engaging with, the people who hurt me personally around this issue, even if they apologize. Those friendships are over. I might accept the apology, but I'm not letting them back into my life.
I will never vote for or support any politicians who supported lockdowns, masking, or vaccine mandates. I will not eat at restaurants that required vaccine passports, even when they stop requiring them. I'll probably never go to NYC again, even though I have good friends there. I will do whatever I can to support calls for justice for the people that made and enforced these terrible laws.
But I won't hold onto the anger, and I won't live in the past. And for me that means finding peace through some sort of forgiveness. That is what I'm working on now.
All this relates to a family situation. My sister did some awful things to our mother in the last years of her life, things that negatively affected our mother's delicate mental health, and eventually led to her suicide. It's about as terrible as it gets. I've spent the last two years thinking about it, rehashing it, being angry about it, etc., and it's getting me nowhere. My sister will never be held accountable for her actions. So what do I do? I'll never, ever let her into my life again. But I have to find a way to move on, and I'm not sure how to do it.
Sorry this is so long, but these are things I'm struggling with right now, and this discussion, especially Jennifer's words about praying for grace, have helped a lot. And this is a personal thing. I'm not saying that you need to do the same things as I am. I am doing this for ME, and I reached out to Jennifer to ask her for some guidance, as it seemed like we were struggling with the same things.
I am not advocating for you to do the same thing. Or for anyone else to do it, for that matter.
Hope this makes sense and that you are well. Peace.
Forgiving people who were brainwashed, who have believed all along that vaccines are what literally saved humanity and have had that belief + fear + compassion exploited ... is different than forgiving those who knowingly did the exploitation / manipulation ... The architects of this and those who knowingly lied on their behalf must be held accountable ... but those who may be struggling with immune dysfunction for the rest of their lives, who were duped and dismissed what they should have listened to, and listened to what they should have seen was bullshit ... Forgiving them may be necessary for healing these fractures ... (?)
I guess they'll have to forgive themselves for being gullible and mentally lazy if/when these occur. I'm willing to put it behind me. Still angry--largely from extreme frustration. Hard to understand the weakness that causes people to lose their ability to reason so easily. A lot of smart, sensible people fell for the bait. Smarter and more "sensible" than me.
I'm an eccentric oddball. An outsider who never "got her act together." I always considered myself inferior to my normal siblings who had good heads on their shoulders, good organizational skills/social niceties and other things needed for success in this life.
I've always been ashamed of my different way of seeing things.
This did not help me persuade people near me. I'm exasperated. It feels like the normals (who always kept their acts together) let me down. I hope I have what it takes to help them in the near future. I mean ability--not willingness. I have that.
I worry a lot about the possible damage to fertility and perhaps genetic effects---didn't we just see a study that found spike proteins in ovaries? I know they were found in the liver and in lymph nodes.
Thank you for sharing this with us Vernon. For myself, I have found some peace in acceptance. I have exhausted myself wishing people were different, and it has never made any difference! So people are what they are, they did what they did, and now I choose not to associate with them in any way. I can do this without burning in anger, without lusting for revenge, without bitterness. Imagine how different the world would look if most of us just made the practical choices you describe here!
This time period has been so crazy. We're all just trying to figure it out and not loose ourselves in the process. I love that we can have these discussions and help one another out.
I have moved away from toxic members of my own family and my blood pressure became normal. My doctor was surprised at the change in my overall health. I put those people out of my life and no longer think of them. They live on one coast and I live on the other. My health is better now in my 80s than it was in my 50s and 60s. I intend to keep it that way by living my own life.
This inspires me Eleanor. Thank you. I am so happy to hear that you feel better now that you have moved away from the toxic people in your life. You demonstrate that it is never too late to have your own life on your own terms, and you can be healthier for it despite age.
Forgiveness in the end is for you and not the person who harmed you. If you look at it that way it is much easier to do. You have to truly forgive to move on with your life in the best way. It doesn't change how you feel about what they did - it just helps you get back to you.
Vernon thank you for sharing your thoughts, they have moved me. Personally, for the people who have done truly awful things that I need to forgive, I find a loosening of my bitterness when I think about the impossibility of anyone other than God being able to mete out justice. Since he is perfectly just and perfectly merciful, I lay the question at his feet and pray for them and for the forgiveness of my own sins.
It's a bit of a whack-a-mole because sometimes the anger pops back up again, and then again I lay it back on God and tell Him that I trust His judgment, not mine. And then I pray for the person.
I am agreeing with you as far as the ones who knew and pushed this poison. I cannot fault the ones who took it because they trusted their gov't or their doctor. They are the ones who will have to live (or die) because of the decision they made to take the jab, especially if they talked loved ones into it who later died or suffered injury. They will have to learn to forgive themselves..
Forgiving is hard. Sometimes too hard for humans, especially when the other party never asks for your forgiveness. I wrote about my own view of forgiveness versus forgetting (the two are not the same) for the last two years. It might give some insight on this topic that will affect all of us unshotted over the next few years.
The reality though is we’re still like deer in the headlights with no end in sight as to how we might find an end to this madness. With laws to mandate vaccines for children across the globe still ongoing is heinous. The corruption is so deep, those running it can’t even see morality and ethics if they smacked them in the face.
Thank you. I said I pray for grace and the ability to forgive. I haven't yet given away the anger, I certainly have not forgotten. The best thing I have found (beyond God's word) is trying to understand that many made the decision out of fear and, if/when they wake up, they will have to live with the horror of having caused a loved one, a child, harm. I will not have that burden, and I ache for those who will. I can show them grace. I think of one person in particular, whose teen sought full information and the parent overrode the teen's decision; that person will be in incredible pain, especially if their child suffers any harm. Grace on the true perpetrators, who know they are lying....God, please help me.
For those that acted out of fear of loosing their livelihood I have compassion. For the well educated who shunned me and took the jabs without even blinking, none. For the ones that took them but treated me fair, okay, nothing changed. Your body your choice. But those that refused for almost a year to speak to me or even phone me, why should I forget? Forgive yes, stupidity is no sin. But my regard for these people is beyond zero now. I will never respect them again.
Lost my 2 former best friends to the covidmania. One came back begging I take them because they are afraid to drive, the other only Emails me, scared I might infect them with a virus that I do not have over the phone LOL
I’m sure you’re wondering where their common sense, intuition, or lack of desire to dig for information regarding a vaccine only approved for EUA only and without proper trials or long-term effects. When I think of former friends who believe Fauci (Mr flip flop) I can only view them as ignorant. Anyone that easily swayed to be controlled I find hard to suffer their bias.
Yes! Personal choice is important when the governments says so. Otherwise it is not allowed to have a personal preference. If that is not a dictatorship I don't know what is!
No compassion for those that acted out of fear of losing their livelihoods. If those cowards would have stood with us this whole thing wouldn't have worked. They should be shunned and forced to pay a huge price. Fear of losing money is greed and utter weakness. SHAME UPON THEM.
Yes, pray for grace. I need to remember that. Thank you Jennifer. Your responses today gave me some things to think about that will help me work through some of this.
" I will not have that burden, and I ache for those who will."
I'm glad I read your response because it is an issue I'm wrestling with as well. Anger can be justified, however, at the end of the day, Our Lord was quite explicit concerning forgiveness and loving your enemies. You have to suck it up and do it. However, I believe that doesn't mean you have to live your life as a human punching bag. By doing so, you're only enabling the sinful behavior of your abusers. After 35 years God granted me the grace to forgive my father for how he mistreated our family. I thought that would never happen. "Grace is free, but it doesn't come cheap", wrote Dietrich Bonheoffer , a Protestant minister who was eventually executed by the 3rd Reich. Jennifer, do not despair. I pray you are granted the grace you seek. Pax Christi.
I'll just say that my issue with your well written essay is the phrase: "I will never forgive." It's like a nail scraping on a chalkboard to anyone who takes their Christian Faith seriously for the reasons I mentioned above. With that being said, I totally understand why you feel the way you do and agree with most of your points. The people who implemented this horror show have, IMO, objectively committed sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance. They need to be brought to trial and dealt with accordingly. IMO, the death penalty should be on the table for those found guilty. You ask how forgiving will people be when we see the full scope of the handiwork of these creeps? Better yet, how forgiving will people be when all these perps face no consequences? For me, and for many, that'll will be a true test of Faith. Pax Christi
Thank you for this response. It puts into words my feelings. Grace. There but for the grace of God go I. I could easily have been one of them but God's grace saved me so I must in turn show them grace when their eyes have been opened...May God be with all of us fighting against this tyranny...
Ruth, the gift God has given me in this pandemic is that He has forced me to put my faith in Him. I am suffering real consequence. I received my termination date a few days ago. I am forced to find a new job in this crazy environment, with this "mark" now on my record. I am forced with the choice to be silent or be vocal about my choice. I am forced to explain over and over again. The more I explain, the more I seek guidance from Him, the more strength I find. I have never had this strength before. I have a sheet of Bible verses by my computer, which I add to, as His word comes to me and give me strength and speak to these times. I am forced to explain my choice to colleagues and clients who do not want to see me go. I have had time to prepare and spent much time in tears and in grief. I hope that I am now at the point of grace and acceptance. He may have begun to reveal His plan for the next part in my career - though I still have to pass some hurdles and the important step of sharing my truth. I could not do this without the strength He provides. And I find the ability to be thankful that He has used this to force me to rely on Him. To be a witness to my children. To watch my teen son grow more responsible, to see him learn to appreciate the value of freedom and the responsibility that comes with that. If I can go on this anonymous forum and show grace, it is because I have had to daily pray for grace as I deal with this drawn out and painful termination process. As I have to find the ability to not shoot the messenger who is forced to carry out my punishment, but who does not want to punish me and who will suffer real harm with my departure. I'm not fully where I want to be, but I am trying to get there. And I have put a lot of thought into this. How do I go out acting with integrity and living true to my values? I do it by showing grace (by which, for the avoidance of doubt, I do not mean I do not protect my legal rights - I will seek justice). And, if God reveals His plan and job loss is limited, I will use some of the bounty (income) He provides to help others who are fighting for freedom.
God bless you Jennifer. I am tracking with you completely. You expressed your thoughts beautifully - forgiveness is what we're aiming at. Doesn't mean we're excusing the wrong or justifying the people who committed it. Some people left judgmental comments about your thoughts/feelings. You weren't telling anyone else what they should do, just what you were trying to do in forgiving. I appreciate your honesty and openness. Also, for what it's worth, Jesus Christ said to do more than just forgive, He actually tells His followers to love our enemies - Wow. That's absolutely impossible without God's supernatural help. Praying for you and may God continue to guide you and provide for you.
Your response brought tears to my eyes. Very powerful message. May God continue to guide you and give you strength. I greatly admire your fortitude, so lacking in many. I refused to wear a mask except at doctor office. My rebellion was minimal as I’m retired, so never had to deal with possible termination, only fear for the overall damage inflicted on so many. I fear for family members who were vaccinated, including grandchildren. Some by choice who now regret after reading the truth about these so-called vaccines, some who still feel protected & virtuous, and two of my four grandkids who were fed untruths and led by their parents to vaccinate (all for no reason as healthy 10 & 13 kids are at no risk). My one son went early for jab while pressuring me. I told him to not mention it to me ever again. My other son did at last minute by force to not be terminated. He felt he had no choice. It’s all so terribly wrong. God bless you. I pray your career continues with many blessings.
Same here. They vaxxed my 5 and 7 year old grand kids BEFORE IT WAS APPROVED! They “pulled some strings” and trusted their doctor. The MD’s were fed false info. I begged everyone in my family before any shit - (I meant to type shot, sorry) was even available not to get it. I told them people were dropping dead from it. None of them listened.
Jennifer, I don't know if you are still reading these responses, but know you aren't alone. Last November I had to make a choice, quit my job or submit a religious exemption request to possibly keep it. I just couldn't submit that exemption request because I refused to use God to comply with an unjust and demonic system of poisonous shots. God told me, don't do it. I quit my job and the peace I received from it is more than you can know. I know I'm not a hypocrite, and speak out freely about the mandates and God has my back. Do I have a new job yet? Nope. Will I get one - who knows? By God's grace I am in a financial situation right now that allows me to be removed from society. What the future holds, is anybody's guess.
Napoleon, that financial freedom is great, isn't it? It gives us freedom to make choices that are consistent with our values. I did struggle with the decision to file a religious exemption, but I firmly believe that God gave me direction on this, so I ultimately did - even though I also believe strongly that my right of choice in this matter transcends my religious views. I know others who made the choice you made, and I respect that choice. Good luck with your job search. I myself will slow-play, respond to jobs that cross my desk that look promising, and focus on a search in the fall (unless something comes into play before that). I too have financial freedom and am so glad that has always been a part of my psyche. I hope that the need for financial freedom permeates free thinkers so that they can also have the financial freedom to make the choices that correspond with their values. I don't know that I would have had the strength to make this choice if I was concerned about providing for my family. Stay strong. YOU are not alone either.
To this community who has given me strength, I passed an important hurdle yesterday in this job that seems to be made for me that serendipitously appeared in my inbox, by way of a recruiter. Third interview (many more to go, my industry), but it was time to be transparent. I had researched the company's values and knew that they only have a vax requirement in the NYC office because required by law. If hired, I will be remote but must go to NYC monthly - so policy applies to me. So I prayed for wisdom and strength and the right words, I pressed the interviewer on the corporate values and whether she felt they were lived, I read some of their words about diversity of views and candid and honest conversations. And I told her my status. She responded that her spouse was unvaxxed and that they administered exemptions out of the state of headquarters (not New York, but a state that has embraced freedom). And she asked me if my company was doing the right thing with regards to my deferred comp. When I replied no, she said that companies will have a reckoning regarding the choices they made in COVID. I didn't know what to expect, I just knew that I had to be transparent to be consistent with my values. To be treated with such grace and respect, by a woman assigned to the NYC office (though who lives in a more rural area north of the City) gave me hope. This may be God's plan for me. She is right, there will be a reckoning, and I know at my Company that the employees who know me and work with me are not happy with the Company's choice and "my people, " all of whom made a different choice, have supported my right to make my choice and have vocally supported the fact that I stayed true to my beliefs. Thank you all for your support, your words of encouragement, the stories you have shared that emphasize how important it is for all of us to stand up for freedom of religion, freedom of medical autonomy, freedom of speech, etc, etc.
Thank you for whoever liked this on July 25. Update- as has been clear to me throughout, God has had a plan for me. Part one was for me to be removed from the environment that was my prior employer. The pressure of working in an environment inconsistent with my values was making me not healthy at home. Part two was to.give me.choices in new opportunities. I ultimately received two offers. I hope I followed God's plan with the choice I made. It has risk, but also potential upside, and most importantly, it has less travel. My kids still need me present at home. I know everyone came to those decision differently. For me, God gave me clarity, that the natural immunity He gave me was all I needed, consequences be damned. He gave me direction and hope, while I made a decision that potentially had far-reaching consequence for my family. He put me in a situation where I had to have faith that He would live up to His promises. I come out stronger and with restored Job opportunities. I will share a portion of the bounty (a paycheck) He has given me to pay it forward. Thank you to this community for your support.
I still need to work on forgiveness. I have moments of anger, grief and sadness toward the many for whom I have lost respect - not for their choice to get vaxxed but rather their refusal to stand up to the actions that said "othering"/discrimination was okay. That continued to go along with it even as their lived experience did not live up to the promises that "justified" exclusion. For those who have othered, I will freely forgive and embrace you with acknowledgement. And I will try to forgive regardless. For those who have supported my choice different from your choice, thank you. It was the few of you - and my faith - that kept me going.
May your faith continue to lead you and bless you in countless ways. Those who decided against this sham vaccine may never know what health issues we dodged, but can give thanks to God for giving us the strength and guidance to know what we felt and knew to be the right choice. Those who were pressured by their doctors or by employment policies, I pray for your health.
I’m not sure what your occupation is but I heard Red Balloon is a conservative job site. I work for the Catholic Church and my Diocese does not require the shots.
My 2 cents: forgiveness can only come with repentance. I'm under no obligation to forgive if you if you will continue to harm others. These psychos should be shunned at the very least, but their crimes should have light shined upon them constantly.
As long as there is still the Emergency Use Authorization and no ability to sue for damages, they are still a menace on the loose who need to be confronted and have their crimes exposed, if only to save others from being lured into a bad fate.
I don't like how Substack distributes responses sometimes. It makes me look like I'm agreeing with all the cherry picked, cloying sweetness and light, 'come drown in my eternal understanding and forgiveness bs.' There is a time for forgiveness, but this isn't it. This is jumping in with the god card to let those poor little perpetrators of mass murder and grievous injury off of the hook. This is 'look at how loving and kind and forgiving I am' and you'd better be also because "The Religion." This is the pied piper leading people that have every right to work their way through all of this to clarity, right back into the darkness so they can shut up and have some more. There is a time for forgiveness, but not until you have reached authentic understanding- something you actually have to work for and fight your way through. Anyone that runs around offering forgiveness after seeing the massive list of side effects and horrific results of the mRNA trials, (released under court order just yesterday) and knowing that the FDA saw it before they approved the poison for the masses is just way too good for this world.
I don't want to speak for Jennifer, but for me this is a personal process. I'm not talking about letting people off the hook, just how I approach them mentally, emotionally, and spiritually ... and how I approach myself, my place in the world, my own mental health.
Just b/c I said I was praying for Grace to get thru this and to deal with my family and friends who bought into this madness does not mean I am not also praying for justice as well. My last prayer on the last decade of my daily rosary is for an end to this false pandemic, an end to any mandates for people to take the mRNA shots and punishment for those responsible for perpetrating this evil upon the world.
I can ask for grace for forgiveness for those near and dear to me who were duped and still ask for punishment for the evil doers pushing their godless agenda. One doesn't trump the other...
Exactly. Justice will come, in this world or the next. I can forgive the ignorant ("forgive them Father for they do not know what they do), and still pray and expect justice. I have a personal prayer campaign against Fauci. It started in January at the height of his demonic power. Where is he now? He is on the run. Should he be strung up? Yes. Will he be? I can hope. But I do know his eternal soul is damned and he is very old and soon to die.
I am angry as anyone. It is now affecting my health. Forgiveness seems impossible if I approach it alone, but Jesus Christ, I cannot live with all this bitterness balled up in me for much longer.
Did you just call Christianity “BS?” Also, as Fauci said to Ron Paul, “ You do not know what you are talking about.” I meant Dr. Rand Paul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmJ1kYcnnM
No, I am not. I am referring to an exchange in some kind of senate hearing. I meant to say RAND Paul. DOCTOR Rand Paul said that Fauci's outfit DID fund Gain of Function research. Fauci lied and said, "You do not know what you are talking about." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmJ1kYcnnM
Uh oh.. the guilt police have arrived to twist everything around with the jesus card and make sure we stay in our cages! Took long enough. You guys are usually right on it. Btw, Jesus was a warrior, not a simp. Also, did you just imply that the biggest mass murderer in history was some kind of authority and that we should all take him seriously? Even after the just released Pfizer docs prove that the Experimental Gene Therapy is 12 times deadlier than the virus ever was to everyone under the age of 80?
I was referring to the famous video where Fauci tells Dr. Rand Paul that he (Dr. Paul) does not know what he is talking about, when Dr. Paul confronts him with evidence that Fauci's organization certainly DID fund Gain of Function.
Now I don't know what you are talking about. My comment was that Christianity is not BS and anyone who says it is does not know what they are talking about.
The list of vaccine side effects that Pfizer wanted to keep secret until 2097, but was ordered by a judge to release yesterday starts on page 30 in the linked document below and the side effects go on for NINE PAGES.
Indeed. There needs to be justice done, there needs to be compensation for all the damage. There needs to be liability for the jabs, all jabs. And for all those that ran in the treadmill, I have no consideration. There was plenty of information even though they tried to block it. I have no medical schooling but could see quickly this was not about health. And still the ones with the biology degrees don't see. That is just not wanting to see and resembles a cult. I will still help them because they are in need, but that is as far as I go.
That's my delimma and I am not religious per say, probably more spiritual in my beliefs. But I guess in the end it's pretty much the same thing. In your heart you know what is right but applying it in every day life is hard. I at this point will never forgive any governing body. As for friends and family I will try to show compassion for how they reacted in spite of the fact that they hurt me deeply. The irony is even if I extend my understanding and compassion to these people it may make no difference. These people may not welcome this stance because in the end they may never admit they were wrong. So, do we in the end, agree to disagree and move on? At this point in time I don't think it's going to happen overnight.
Brainwashed and harmed enough to demand the unvaccinated be denied medical care, jobs, even their very lives? No, there is something deep down evil there.
Yes. They are harming themselves, but they are guilty too. At some point ignorance can no longer be pleaded as absolution. Though the puppeteers are far guiltier since they know what's going on. I am not full of sweetness and light by the way. I am very angry.
Being scammed and taking the shot is forgivable. It was a poor choice, made under deception and coercion.
We can all forgive that.
Being cruel and abusive to your former friends, family, and neighbors is not mere stupidity, and should not be forgiven without contrition. I don't free passes for cruelty the foundation for a just society I want to live in.
That was a really good comment. I think we are all wrestling with this issue. As much as I would like to forgive these people, I, at this point can't. If covid could cause such a rift in personal relationships how would these same people, that we thought we trusted and loved, could ever be trusted again in another so called life threatening crisis.
I realize a lot of people in these stacks are coming from an evangelical Christian perspective in which forgiveness is a central theme and concept and are going to assign different value to it than others including myself.
I think the signal that gets lost in the language is that "forgive" is very often being used- again, for specific cultural reasons like the aforementioned- as a stand-in for "move on from your anger at the injury and don't let it consume you," and I think this is solid advice no matter what your spiritual background is (even if it's "None").
When I was still in private practice, the majority of my clients were nursing childhood wounds that had not had direct impact on their lives for years- the parent or other abuser was long out of their lives, often even dead, and the specific abuses had long ago stopped having any direct impact on them apart from living rent-free in their heads. Their injuries became an essential part of their identity in the same sense that COVID became the essential identity of Covidians- it gave their existence meaning, purpose, and a tribe ("hello, fellow <blank> survivors!"). It had become something VALUABLE instead of something actually unwanted.
This is what is often meant by "forgive," that gets lost in the weeds because people hear "absolve" or "reward injury." It means acknowledging that a thing happened, that its circumstances may or may not be in your control, and moving forward from the thing. It means renegotiating what your relationship to the person means in light of what their behavior reveals about themselves- in a rational way, while realizing you are also imperfect- and that can include ending the relationship or seeking restitution.
Exactly. Couldn't say it any better. Forgive AND FORGET is not what us Christians were taught. People use the term forgive and the term forget interchangably. If you do that then yes, forgiving means you are a punching bag. When you forgive in the Christian sense, you NEVER FORGET.
Excellent commentary about forgiveness. I guess the hardest thing about this is the feeling of betrayal by those who love you and those we love. I've never been able to embrace being a covidian, but agree there are many people who have. It seems to give them a purpose and a sense of belonging to a tribe. I think these people are going to have a really tough time letting go of the mandates and mask wearing and everything covid.
"A lot of people in these stacks" <> "I assume everyone is an evangelical Christian." I know because they have explicitly stated they are. Some of them are friendly fans of my own stack, in fact.
Do you need a better excuse to be offended or pick an argument? I can definitely give you one.
Sure, go for it. I wasn't offended, I just thought it was a bold assumption. Most religions promote forgiveness, including Jews, Muslims, Catholics and more. I am not an evangelical Christian, but I know that there is a prejudice against them.
Mark, beautiful essay. You said well what we all feel. I said that I need to forgive FOR ME, not for them. God has called me to forgive. In my mind, forgiveness does not mean that we don't seek justice, at least for the evil that perpetrated this. I will certainly seek justice vis a vis my employer. I hope to see the evil behind the misinformation and propaganda and grotesque profiting brought to justice - because if there is no justice, this will happen again.
I have not fully reached a place where I have forgiven. I pray for that place. I imagine that my journey to forgiveness will be crooked. It will be easier to forgive those who treated me poorly because they acted out of fear or coercion, it will be harder to forgive those who enacted discriminatory policies, it will be even harder to forgive the evil behind this. Emotionally, though, I will need to do so, while also seeking justice, or pushing for justice, where appropriate.
Forgive doesn't mean forget. Forgive doesn't mean let it happen again.
Please continue to put your thoughts down on paper to share with all of us, because you are so eloquent and thought-provoking, even if I cannot agree with every word.
I have devalued various friendships based on what has happened. This decision was not a matter of forgiveness or refusal to forgive. It's discernment; knowing who apprehends reality and who doesn't.
My forgiveness is not directed towards officials in government or pharma executives or bosses or HR directors, etc. .... my forgiveness is directed towards family members and close friends who were duped by this madness. Everyone else should face the same end that those found guilty in the Nazi war crime trials after WWII faced...
I think people confuse 'forgive' and 'accept'. Forgiveness requires action on the transgressors part. They must acknowledge they wronged you, show remorse, try to make amends. And you cannot forgive someone for something they did to another, e.g. I forgive you for murdering my son. You can't forgive on someone's behalf. I choose to accept if the other party is not seeking forgiveness. I accept that my ex-husband stole marital assets from me (and many other things,) I accept I should have been less trusting. I do this to not dwell and stress myself out. But no, I have not forgiven him. He maintains he did nothing wrong. You do not forgive people like that.
I've seen this so many times -- people acted out of "fear". Untrue. People felt fear and then acted out their 𝙘𝙤𝙬𝙖𝙧𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙚. That's the difference. Fear is understandable. Cowardice is unacceptable -- especially when indulging it means collaboration with mass destruction. Unacceptable and unforgiveable.
Sorry I can't forgive right now, maybe never, all of this was done with one goal in mind, MONEY, POWER and the chance to manipulate and turn citizens into scared lab rats
Yes Jennifer. It is in pardoning that we are pardoned. I agree with all you say.
It is not finished. Only yesterday I was reading a serious article following careful research that the shedding that is occurring from the vaxxed is causing blood clotting and other issues for the unvaxxed. Very recently research is saying that shedding is not a possibility but a certainty and with perhaps 5 billion vaxxed people in the world this is a sad reality we face together both vaxxed and unvaxxed.
I thank you Mark for this. May your endeavours prosper. Well done.
Thank you Hippocrates Health Centre for this and all the good work you do to help us to look after our bodies and to combat the evil in the health industry and to find the good.
Thank you substack for assisting Mark to bring this to us. You are an answer to a prayer.
Thank you God. Please help us through this which we have unwittingly brought upon ourselves.
Well-said, Mark. I still remember standing in my living room and staring out the window in March 2020 not understanding how ALL the world leaders were calling for a lock-down. My question at the time was, "How would they all do this at the same time? How does it happen in such a coordinated way?" So that started me on the journey to seek the truth which wasn't provided by the MSM. That's how I got educated. I knew something wasn't right. I trusted my hunch and started digging. I certainly NEVER trusted the shots which we've now learned are likely a bio-weapon. I work with those that are triple-jabbed and I wonder how long they have before they drop dead. It bothers me. I tried to stop them from getting the jab. I shared what I had discovered but they were and are so brain-washed, nothing would prevent them from buying into the bullshit. So now here we are. Waiting for the rest of the dystopian story.
Yes, the rest of the dystopian story, and what that looks like.
Will it be a slow die off of the jabbed, over many years? That seems to be the suggestion from many lifelong scientists that have been cancelled for stating their warnings.
Cancers, sudden deaths, strokes, auto-immune diseases, VAIDS, etc. Many chose to be Guinea pigs, some were coerced.
And then there’s the damaged relationships thanks to the buy in of propaganda, by the gullible. We have that, former friends, and divided family, including our suddenly demanding, hypochondriac daughter, who is holding back visitation from our grandson, whom we saw weekly until just before Christmas. We are at a deadlock, she makes new demands all the time. Yet, we WERE supporting them financially, but that has stopped. So has the free babysitting, which she now pays for. She is being stupid, and paying for it.
But we refuse to wear masks in OUR house, for her pleasure.
We also realize it’s her life, and while sad about not seeing our grandson, we realize if we moved 300 miles away (which is in our retirement plans), it wouldn’t be an issue.
Covid jabs have fried people’s brains. Until they die.
It's sad when our children join cults. I was not welcome to see my newborn grand daughter 5-6 years ago because I didn't like Hillary and said so. And of course, I was not permitted to visit the grandkids during the lock down. So stupid. And what a loss for the grandkids. I am 65 and think about my granny every day. Her house is still my happy place. I learned so much from her and idolized her.
Enjoyed your comments. Like you, from nearly the beginning of the covid narrative, I felt something was wrong and began to research everything to do with it. Most people I know who took the jab did little to no research. And they certainly weren't interested in mine.
"how long they have before they drop dead." I assume you are talking about the ones who haven't already dropped dead. Because there are an awful lot of them.
These feelings all need to be acknowledged. I totally agree.
I am also going to point out that the Coronamaniac behaviors on both/all sides are very much like an abusive relationship.
The controllers behind the scenes manipulating the public officials into being the abusers, and the general public being the victims. The very gaslighting behaviors of "oh, hey, now you don't need to wear the masks anymore; COVID is over!" is just like the abuser who pretends like none of it ever happened, and you are crazy for imagining it.
The "Coronamaniacs" -- most of them -- are victims. They are the ones who bought into the gaslighting and they are STILL BRAINWASHED, even if they take off their masks and now feel "safe." I will also add -- for NOW -- because do not think for one moment that this abuse is "over." This is all part of the cycle of abuse, where it ramps up in intensity and then it calms down and the abuser pretends it never happened, and the victim forgets it ever happened.
We who saw through this the entire time are rightfully pissed off. But it is the abusers who inflicted this onto us -- they manipulated our loved ones into destroying our valued relationships.
We are victims, too. We have been placed into an impossible position where we cannot break through the brainwashing of our loved ones, coworkers, community members. It is infuriating that so many lives have been destroyed by these lying liars. I want my loved ones BACK.
I'm angry that they were made fearful. I'm angry that they shunned, thinking they were doing the right thing: they have been (and are still!) under a spell. It's so evil.
Betrayal by those whom you trust is the WORST injury. And it has been like the most horrifying horror movie to see people I know well, people I always trusted or thought of as very intelligent, capable of good decision making, turned nothing more than marionettes, tools of the machine. Their minds absolutely destroyed.
While the rest of us are looking at the devastation, seeing it so clearly. Shouting at them, almost, to not get jabbed.... and then they do. And then they tell us we are the selfish idiots. Our parents, our children, our siblings.... turning US into the enemy. All because their minds were captured and twisted.
The destruction of these relationships and the faith I used to have in my fellow men's ability to maintain the ability for critical thinking when under assault..... why some were vulnerable to it and others were not. These are going to be the lessons we as a people need to learn and drill into those of us who remain, and our descendants.
Victims and abusers. A Covid Karen is a victim from gaslighting/isolation. But screaming curses at an unmasked 5-year-old in a store makes her an abuser too. Victims often double as abusers.
I worked in child protective services. Many of the genuinely abusive parents we investigated (the overwhelming majority of reports were unfounded) had been abused themselves in some form or another, by their caregivers. The concept of generational abuse was not unknown to us.
That didn't stop us from dealing with them like the criminals they were, nor did it shield them from the consequences of their actions.
I don't agree that the people you speak of were somehow 'captured' and were not the very same people to begin with. Not so much a destruction as it is a revelation, imo.
The reason why I believe this is because I used to be more susceptible to brainwashing; I became redpilled about 10 years ago. This could have been me. I could have been a COVID Karen, had I not woken up prior to the COVID propaganda programming. My loved ones, however, have continued to have faith in trusted institutions, and they have bought the propaganda hook, line and sinker. But it goes beyond willingly believing or following.... they are literally hypnotized at this point and have no idea.
I think our public officials are a combination of people who are unwitting tools (brainwashed, probably well meaning) and people who are corrupt/knowingly doing this (either bribed or blackmailed).
I know that there are people who do not seem to be capable of change, and this Covidmania is revealing the true character that was there all along, underneath fake smiles. But I know myself well: I WAS a Karen type of person, well meaning, believing myself to be "a good person," thought I was "right." And then I accidentally learned that everything I had been using as a foundation for my beliefs were lies. I learned that I was betrayed by a bunch of corrupt, self-serving liars, and also that there was a deeper agenda.... it was devastating to learn this. I was angry, I was ashamed, I was outraged, I was humiliated. Everything I'd built my life on was a lie, and I'd been bamboozled. My faith and trust were destroyed for a period of time, and I had to rebuild.
But coming to terms with the harsh reality, as opposed to my prior false reality, inoculated me against COVID brainwashing. I have to believe there are other fundamentally good people who have been taken in by this massive false reality, manipulated into doing harm to others while believing themselves to be "good people." Some will wake up, and when they learn how they were tricked into being tools of the evil puppetmasters, they will be devastated. Corruption of innocents.
Chronically ill from iatrogenic damage. Managed to escape that abusive doctor and heal a little. Then THIS nightmare occurs. I'm terrified of falling into the hands of abusive "medical experts" more than dying. If others knew they would be far more frightened of where we're being dragged than the plague itself.
I like "managed to escape" from an abusive doctor. I am escaping from almost all doctors now. They certainly have a tendancy to do more harm than good.
I sympathize with your plight. It was entirely accidental, and it was about ten years ago. I was poking about on the internet, looking for some solutions to one of my children's health conditions at the time, and I stumbled upon some intriguing information I'd never heard before, about how the Rockefeller medical schools had actually suppressed many natural treatments and cures in favor of their patent medicines, and that doctors were being indoctrinated to believe that natural medicines were inferior, or "old wives' tales."
From there, I was curious enough to research some more, because I had never heard this before.... I wanted to know if it was true or not. Turned out to be true! So then I looked more deeply and found that this type of suppression of natural medicines (think "first, do no harm") had been going on for thousands of years.
I learned that when a health supplement says "this product has not been evaluated by the FDA" that is because legally they are required to print that! It doesn't mean the product is harmful or ineffective, but that's what you think, if you don't realize..... also that the FDA DOES NOT EVALUATE SUPPLEMENTS. This is lying by implication. Your mind leaps to make an assumption -- your mind goes where "they" want it to go.
I became interested in the topic of hypnosis, propaganda, brainwashing and delved into that for awhile.
Next, I uncovered the materials about the secret medical experiments that had been done to people, and were still being done to people. I learned about informed consent. I learned about other things which maybe were or were not conspiracy theories, such as fluoride.
Once I started researching, I just kept going. But two things about that: the censorship ten years ago was not as severe as it is now -- it was much easier to find that information. It's still possible, but you need to know how to get around the censorship. The other thing is that I drove this myself -- no one pushed me to do it. I was simply curious. I think no one could have told me; I wouldn't have believed them. I was (and still am) such a skeptic. But once you see, you can't unsee. And once you start to realize you've been lied to, you have to wonder, what ELSE have "they" been lying to me about? So you turn over a few more rocks.....
I hope your husband can wake up. Try showing him, if he will look, some of the dissonance between what is real and what is being presented on the "news." For example, the Trucker convoy is not at all as it is being presented. It's massive and the news will barely report on it. I guess that is the type of thing which redpilled me.... seeing the contrast between what I was being manipulated to think and believe, and what I was seeing with my own eyes.
"I was simply curious." That right there. Those who refuse to listen or read or search are completely incurious. They might discover something that they base their identity on is actually not true and then they would have an identity crisis.
My second red pill was reading the biographies of the MK Ultra executive sex slaves. After that, I doubted everything and everyone. My first was when a friend told me about 9/11. It was about ten years after the event, and I had never even heard such a theory.
I too learned about 9-11 about ten years after the event. I was shocked that I had never before come across that information. And then.... many other bits and pieces of information I'd collected over the years began to come together and quite a different picture emerged, than that which had been taught to me.
I believe part of the brainwashing program (similar to MKUltra programming) is to "look away" or "don't go there" or "use our fact checkers" or "that source has been discredited. Whatever you do, DON'T LOOK." So of course, that's where I'd want to look. ;)
The red pill is very hard to swallow for many people and how someone gets to “enlightenment” is a personal journey. What works for some won’t work for others.
My mom has woken up a bit. She refused her booster when all of her neighbors and friends got it - so I’m getting there.
I think there are many possibilities to getting someone to see reality. I’m a numbers and data guy so I have my mom a lot of data and helped her make sense of it. Substack has been very helpful. Dr. Malone and el gato malo are probably the two that I’ve used with her the most.
Infowars is also a great source but I started small. The COVIDland movies are excellent. Both made her cry. RFK Jar’s book The Real Anthony Fauci is also excellent. She didn’t finish it but if someone were to read that book and check some references to see that it’s factual, there is no way they could stay asleep. John Abramson’s new book Sickening (I’ve not yet read it) might be a good red pill too. I’ve seen him on a few podcasts and he’s definitely seen the real side of big pharma.
I have a theory that Alex Jones is controlled opposition. Most of his info is correct, but then "They" have him throw in some nonsense so that they can label everything he says as Conspiracy Theory. Because the term "Conspiracy Theory" is actually a tool to cover up the truth. I like to think of my self as a "Conspiracy Therapist."
FWIW - my "red-pilling" was accidental/peripheral, too.
In an attempt to change my diet/lifestyle 11 years ago, I came to understand that "conventional wisdom" is often wrong (sometimes REALLY wrong). I did my own research and found solutions and paths that worked FOR ME.
Since then, I have questioned everything that is touted as a panacea/one-size-fits-all solution. This situation was no different.
Unfortunately, just like changing a diet, you can't change someone's mind/opinion unless they are willing to do so - ESPECIALLY in the case of mass formation!
Wow, when I read this, I thought it was me talking. You completely expressed everything I have felt from the very beginning of this Plandemic, and I salute you 1000 fold for saying it all out loud...every little fucking bit! I will also never forgive, and for certain will not forget! They must pay, all of them, every last one. This is the only way to move forward. Justice needs to happen.
Screw "forgive and forget" - I want real justice. I want Fauci et al to spend the rest of their lives in jail. The just punishment would be the death penalty, but I would much rather see that scum languish in a 6' x 10' cell until they die.
And similar events throughout history. We all need to start talking openly about them. We also ALL need to start talking openly about tearing down the existing government structure - as The Constitution gives us the right - and reform it in the way it was intended by the founders. Strength in numbers - works every time.
Exactly. My first thought when I heard that he was still around and in charge was...WTF! The same guy who was going to cure AIDS and the best he could do what come up with an insane medicine protocol? The same guy who's bungled so many other things? Fanfreakingtastic...
Put him in jail and give him a Pfizer shot every month until he suffers from the poisons he's pushed on so many other people... Biden and the rest as well.
Yep. FJB couldn't even draw flies. It's been proven six ways from Sunday. We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, etc.
I was singled out at work, and it created most likely a permanent division in our family those who bought into the injection became very tyrannical against those who didnt almost to insanity. I've lost trust in many and those with high credentials have lost all my respect in them based on their illogical imposition to receive the injection, it will take me along time to forgive them but its based on them, if they actually apologize. I'm just thankful I stayed the course and many followed me. Sincerely Sharon
Well done for staying pure in the face of coercion. I am lucky enough to not have had pressure placed on me by family. They just think I'm crazy, which is fine.
I sort of work in retail and it makes my black little heart happy to see the incomprehension on other peoples faces when they discover that I'm unjabbed.
For those who try and pressure others to get the jab; I hope that your God forgives you, because there is not a hope in hell that I ever will.
Yup, my thoughts exactly. And I'll never forget the degree of viciousness that so many people casually adopted. The unbridled hatred just came from these people so readily, it's breathtaking. This has been a hard lesson to endure. That of having to acknowledge how so many people really are under their fake "how're ya doin' today?" smile. Conversely, I've also learned which of the people that I know have something decent deep down. Unfortunately, that is scarcely few.
100% agree with all that, and superbly well articulated Mark. I have a slightly different angle on the politics though since I am not in the US. Biden is everything you described and more, but he is just a puppet. There are identical puppets all over the western (and more) world, all enacting the same totalitarianism as the Democrat admin pulling Biden’s strings.
I just don’t want to lose focus on where the rot starts, it’s above the POTUS’ pay grade. It starts with the Rothschilds of the world. Gates, Soros et al, they are gophers, facilitators. The politicians like Biden are just shop window dressing to sustain the facade of democracy.
I was just invited to a wedding that will occur in May, invitation stated that guests had to be vaccinated for "everyone's safety". I laughed, sent back the RSVP saying my wife and I wouldn't attend, and crossed that jackass out of my life.
I believe that at least some of them WILL wake up to what they've done. And when they do, they will be devastated..... knowing they gave or encouraged their kids to have these shots, believing they were protecting them and doing the right thing. And shunning their beloved family members who saw through the bullshit lies and did not get the shots.... when these otherwise "good people" learn the truth, how they were manipulated and brainwashed into believing and acting in the exact opposite of their and their children's best interests, how they were manipulated into perpetrating evil upon their fellow man.... it's going to be so horrible for them to live with themselves. Should we then not forgive them?
The ones who learn the truth but then try to cover up their actions and just pretend it never happened -- that's how you will tell them apart.
I'm the only one in my family who didn't get the shot. I've already confronted the possibility that I alone might survive in the months and years to come. It's so unfair. It's so cruel. I want my kids to be able to have kids of their own, have long and happy lives. It's all a big unknown.
Well said. One small correction..."A shot that no reasonably healthy person under 70 should have even considered"....I would say no one should have considered it. Ever.
Frankly, I haven't yet been convinced that the vax confers any benefits to anyone of any age. My daughter is a nurse in a rehab/nursing facility. She has seen a lot of people in their 80's, 90's, even a couple over 100 get covid and not do all that badly. They were just old, not sick. Others who were younger and who died WITH but not from covid were basically on a kind of death watch when they entered the facility in the first place. They were going to die before long and that's when they were put in the hospital, and it was just a matter of when it would happen.
I’m an academic looking to exit the scam of “higher ed.” That last paragraph took the words right out of my mouth. Universities across the country have blood on their hands. Just being on campus among these people makes me sick to my stomach.
Thank you, Mark. As always, you capture my every sentiment. We are on the same page 100%. I fear what the ultimate results will be when the emperor is finally exposed! I hate him above all others and wish him a slow, painful death. And that last part goes for all Demoncrats and Libtards. May the whole lot rot in HELL.
NEVER FORGET... it’s not over... it just went underground for the time being... the kids are still in the crosshairs... American Rescue Plan edu funding ESSER 3.0 contingent on mitigation plan & compliance ... states revising kids vax statutes to require ... in California pending SB 871 adding COVID to required vax list & ELIMINATION of ALL EXEMPTIONS including MEDICAL & BELIEF... this charade will be back
MIT just published a report that insinuates we have massive health problems ahead due to the covid injections (I don't call them "vaccines" because they are not). MY DIL is a pharmacist and she forbade everyone in the family to take the covid shots. A year ago she predicted all the potential problems that MIT just published.
And the medical industry will clean up with tons of additional specialist visits/tests for determination of new/different health issues and cures. They gonna clean up (had to say it again).
Got a link?
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23
Is this the same one referenced above published by MIT?
Yes. The MIT research was published in IJVTPR (International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice and Research).
But it says it was published some time ago, definitely not recently
mRNA editors or the Vexx
@JesseKellyDC did a monologue in the same spirit as Mark’s. I have wanted to say this to certain friends/family but have refrained. Not sure how much longer I can continue this way. To be fair, none of them have treated me badly. But I have noticed some friends don’t contact me any more after they found out I was unvaxd. I am retired so that takes out the workplace scenario. Aside from vitriolic posts on social media, I have avoided the venom. I quit most social media bc of this. https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1499572839384420355
Addendum: A couple who my husband and I used to be close friends with, invited me over for dinner 3/5. This was the first time in over a year. After my husband passed in late ‘19, they had me over fairly frequently. I guess they feel a little more comfortable around me after recent developments. The husband proceeded to say that while he didn’t agree with mandates, anyone who didn’t get the jab is “a complete idiot”. He knows I didn’t get it. His wife sat there quietly nodding. He and I had a heated debate (she remained quiet). We managed to move on to other less controversial things to salvage the evening. This is the kind of soft vitriol that I have felt from some friends. It’s not horrible in-your-face hatred but stings nonetheless.
I'm sorry that happened to you but I'm glad you stood up to him. So many of my clients have made off-hand remarks about the stupidity or insanity of people not getting the injection WHILE I was serving them, KNOWING I hadn't had it and wasn't planning to get it. I've since lost 80% of my business because of this crap, and although I wish I could go back in time and have my job the way it used to be, I really don't want to have anything to do with people who think and treat others like that. It hurts when you find out you didn't really know people at all.
Lisa, sorry to hear that you lost 80% of your business (hairdresser? Not sure what you do). My hairdresser had to close her business bc she lost many customers. I went to her for over 20 years. I’m glad things have eased up but it’s any uneasy calm. I fear that “they” will ramp up again when the time is right.
That was pretty much ‘in your face’ from him...arguing with an AH is a waste of time as he thinks he’s superior. I’d avoid their presence and find nicer friends.
AMEN
Biden isn't smart enough to be ''The Emperor" even while engaged in his most corrupt, perverted, treasonous activities. The person we are calling (P)Resident is not who you think he is. Pay close attention to every video you see of him and observe closely. I can differentiate between 3 actors (Arthur Roberts is easy) but I understand he has up to 5 or more. Larry is no longer one of them. The Emperor is not The Kenyan, either. They are the puppets. Unmask the Puppet Master and you'll be cutting off the head of the snake. In fact, I'm surprised Bidet and The Kenyan are still breathing air. Most loyal military wouldn't tolerate such treason.
I pray for grace and the ability to forgive. Everything you say is true, and I hope that there is justice and recognition. But I want the ability to forgive. No one provided true "informed consent"; instead, they provided consent based on talking points that were not backed by the materials that have been available. Too many took this out of fear, others because of the fear of social ostracization, the desire to travel, many took it to keep their jobs. Some of that group will wake up and realize they were duped, and they will be angry. Many will live with the guilt that they consented (under coercion) to something that caused them or a loved one, maybe even their child, harm. Those people deserve our forgiveness and grace. Others, who profited, who knowingly lied, should be brought to justice. But I need to forgive those who have harmed me and excluded me because of my choice; I need to do it for me and not for them. So I pray for grace. And I remain thankful that God gave me COVID, took away my fear, and spoke to me through His word: Psalms 146:3, 1 Corinthians 2:5, Proverbs 3:5-6, just to name a few. "So that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God's power." 1 Corinthians 2:5
This is a powerful response Jennifer. I’m feeling the same way. I want to forgive. That’s what the story of Jesus is all about, and it is powerful.
I’m struggling with how to do it. Not sure how to proceed. How do you forgive while not forgetting? Can you forgive without the other party being contrite?
Jesus said:
Forgive them for they know not what they do
What if they knew what they were doing?
This feels to me like an abusive boyfriend who, though not sorry and willing to abuse again, buys candy and flowers for his girlfriend.
Under these circumstances forgiveness seems dysfunctional and enables more abuse.
Respectfully disagree, Mark.
Forgiveness is a completely personal thing, the way Jennifer and I have been discussing it here. I can forgive in my heart, but not forget. That's the key there, forgiving but not forgetting and not letting it happen again. Is it possible? That's what we've been discussing.
Here's where I am right now:
I am in no way speaking to, or engaging with, the people who hurt me personally around this issue, even if they apologize. Those friendships are over. I might accept the apology, but I'm not letting them back into my life.
I will never vote for or support any politicians who supported lockdowns, masking, or vaccine mandates. I will not eat at restaurants that required vaccine passports, even when they stop requiring them. I'll probably never go to NYC again, even though I have good friends there. I will do whatever I can to support calls for justice for the people that made and enforced these terrible laws.
But I won't hold onto the anger, and I won't live in the past. And for me that means finding peace through some sort of forgiveness. That is what I'm working on now.
All this relates to a family situation. My sister did some awful things to our mother in the last years of her life, things that negatively affected our mother's delicate mental health, and eventually led to her suicide. It's about as terrible as it gets. I've spent the last two years thinking about it, rehashing it, being angry about it, etc., and it's getting me nowhere. My sister will never be held accountable for her actions. So what do I do? I'll never, ever let her into my life again. But I have to find a way to move on, and I'm not sure how to do it.
Sorry this is so long, but these are things I'm struggling with right now, and this discussion, especially Jennifer's words about praying for grace, have helped a lot. And this is a personal thing. I'm not saying that you need to do the same things as I am. I am doing this for ME, and I reached out to Jennifer to ask her for some guidance, as it seemed like we were struggling with the same things.
I am not advocating for you to do the same thing. Or for anyone else to do it, for that matter.
Hope this makes sense and that you are well. Peace.
Will everyone be as forgiving if/when longer term vaxx effects occur? What if there are sharp increases in cancer and infertility rates?
Forgiving people who were brainwashed, who have believed all along that vaccines are what literally saved humanity and have had that belief + fear + compassion exploited ... is different than forgiving those who knowingly did the exploitation / manipulation ... The architects of this and those who knowingly lied on their behalf must be held accountable ... but those who may be struggling with immune dysfunction for the rest of their lives, who were duped and dismissed what they should have listened to, and listened to what they should have seen was bullshit ... Forgiving them may be necessary for healing these fractures ... (?)
No it's not. The rubes that fell for this were just as savage to those of us who didn't as the architects of this evil. Remember!
I guess they'll have to forgive themselves for being gullible and mentally lazy if/when these occur. I'm willing to put it behind me. Still angry--largely from extreme frustration. Hard to understand the weakness that causes people to lose their ability to reason so easily. A lot of smart, sensible people fell for the bait. Smarter and more "sensible" than me.
I'm an eccentric oddball. An outsider who never "got her act together." I always considered myself inferior to my normal siblings who had good heads on their shoulders, good organizational skills/social niceties and other things needed for success in this life.
I've always been ashamed of my different way of seeing things.
This did not help me persuade people near me. I'm exasperated. It feels like the normals (who always kept their acts together) let me down. I hope I have what it takes to help them in the near future. I mean ability--not willingness. I have that.
I worry a lot about the possible damage to fertility and perhaps genetic effects---didn't we just see a study that found spike proteins in ovaries? I know they were found in the liver and in lymph nodes.
If you are a Purblood. Store your blood in a secure blood bank and make them use it if you are to have any surgery that you cannot avoid.
Thank you for sharing this with us Vernon. For myself, I have found some peace in acceptance. I have exhausted myself wishing people were different, and it has never made any difference! So people are what they are, they did what they did, and now I choose not to associate with them in any way. I can do this without burning in anger, without lusting for revenge, without bitterness. Imagine how different the world would look if most of us just made the practical choices you describe here!
This time period has been so crazy. We're all just trying to figure it out and not loose ourselves in the process. I love that we can have these discussions and help one another out.
I have moved away from toxic members of my own family and my blood pressure became normal. My doctor was surprised at the change in my overall health. I put those people out of my life and no longer think of them. They live on one coast and I live on the other. My health is better now in my 80s than it was in my 50s and 60s. I intend to keep it that way by living my own life.
This inspires me Eleanor. Thank you. I am so happy to hear that you feel better now that you have moved away from the toxic people in your life. You demonstrate that it is never too late to have your own life on your own terms, and you can be healthier for it despite age.
Forgiveness in the end is for you and not the person who harmed you. If you look at it that way it is much easier to do. You have to truly forgive to move on with your life in the best way. It doesn't change how you feel about what they did - it just helps you get back to you.
If you forgive this easily then they will do it to us again and again. PUNISHMENT IS MANDATORY
I really needed to hear this today Patti. Thank you.
well said
Vernon thank you for sharing your thoughts, they have moved me. Personally, for the people who have done truly awful things that I need to forgive, I find a loosening of my bitterness when I think about the impossibility of anyone other than God being able to mete out justice. Since he is perfectly just and perfectly merciful, I lay the question at his feet and pray for them and for the forgiveness of my own sins.
It's a bit of a whack-a-mole because sometimes the anger pops back up again, and then again I lay it back on God and tell Him that I trust His judgment, not mine. And then I pray for the person.
I am agreeing with you as far as the ones who knew and pushed this poison. I cannot fault the ones who took it because they trusted their gov't or their doctor. They are the ones who will have to live (or die) because of the decision they made to take the jab, especially if they talked loved ones into it who later died or suffered injury. They will have to learn to forgive themselves..
No forgiveness before contrition and severe punishment.
Forgiving is hard. Sometimes too hard for humans, especially when the other party never asks for your forgiveness. I wrote about my own view of forgiveness versus forgetting (the two are not the same) for the last two years. It might give some insight on this topic that will affect all of us unshotted over the next few years.
https://narrowpath.substack.com/p/forgive-but-do-not-forget?r=171xjv&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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The reality though is we’re still like deer in the headlights with no end in sight as to how we might find an end to this madness. With laws to mandate vaccines for children across the globe still ongoing is heinous. The corruption is so deep, those running it can’t even see morality and ethics if they smacked them in the face.
I concur. No mercy for the covid pushing savages. The reason is deterrence. This must never be allowed to happen again as long as humans can remember.
Thank you. I said I pray for grace and the ability to forgive. I haven't yet given away the anger, I certainly have not forgotten. The best thing I have found (beyond God's word) is trying to understand that many made the decision out of fear and, if/when they wake up, they will have to live with the horror of having caused a loved one, a child, harm. I will not have that burden, and I ache for those who will. I can show them grace. I think of one person in particular, whose teen sought full information and the parent overrode the teen's decision; that person will be in incredible pain, especially if their child suffers any harm. Grace on the true perpetrators, who know they are lying....God, please help me.
For those that acted out of fear of loosing their livelihood I have compassion. For the well educated who shunned me and took the jabs without even blinking, none. For the ones that took them but treated me fair, okay, nothing changed. Your body your choice. But those that refused for almost a year to speak to me or even phone me, why should I forget? Forgive yes, stupidity is no sin. But my regard for these people is beyond zero now. I will never respect them again.
So true. Respect lost for many. Compassion felt for those who felt they had no choice.
Lost my 2 former best friends to the covidmania. One came back begging I take them because they are afraid to drive, the other only Emails me, scared I might infect them with a virus that I do not have over the phone LOL
I’m sure you’re wondering where their common sense, intuition, or lack of desire to dig for information regarding a vaccine only approved for EUA only and without proper trials or long-term effects. When I think of former friends who believe Fauci (Mr flip flop) I can only view them as ignorant. Anyone that easily swayed to be controlled I find hard to suffer their bias.
Notice, with the relaxation of masking, suddenly "personal choice" (to remain masked) is important again?
Yes! Personal choice is important when the governments says so. Otherwise it is not allowed to have a personal preference. If that is not a dictatorship I don't know what is!
No compassion for those that acted out of fear of losing their livelihoods. If those cowards would have stood with us this whole thing wouldn't have worked. They should be shunned and forced to pay a huge price. Fear of losing money is greed and utter weakness. SHAME UPON THEM.
Many of them have, or will ''be forced to pay a huge price".
Yes, pray for grace. I need to remember that. Thank you Jennifer. Your responses today gave me some things to think about that will help me work through some of this.
" I will not have that burden, and I ache for those who will."
This is very true for me as well.
I'm glad I read your response because it is an issue I'm wrestling with as well. Anger can be justified, however, at the end of the day, Our Lord was quite explicit concerning forgiveness and loving your enemies. You have to suck it up and do it. However, I believe that doesn't mean you have to live your life as a human punching bag. By doing so, you're only enabling the sinful behavior of your abusers. After 35 years God granted me the grace to forgive my father for how he mistreated our family. I thought that would never happen. "Grace is free, but it doesn't come cheap", wrote Dietrich Bonheoffer , a Protestant minister who was eventually executed by the 3rd Reich. Jennifer, do not despair. I pray you are granted the grace you seek. Pax Christi.
Please see my response to Vernon above.
I'll just say that my issue with your well written essay is the phrase: "I will never forgive." It's like a nail scraping on a chalkboard to anyone who takes their Christian Faith seriously for the reasons I mentioned above. With that being said, I totally understand why you feel the way you do and agree with most of your points. The people who implemented this horror show have, IMO, objectively committed sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance. They need to be brought to trial and dealt with accordingly. IMO, the death penalty should be on the table for those found guilty. You ask how forgiving will people be when we see the full scope of the handiwork of these creeps? Better yet, how forgiving will people be when all these perps face no consequences? For me, and for many, that'll will be a true test of Faith. Pax Christi
Thank you for this response. It puts into words my feelings. Grace. There but for the grace of God go I. I could easily have been one of them but God's grace saved me so I must in turn show them grace when their eyes have been opened...May God be with all of us fighting against this tyranny...
https://open.substack.com/pub/ramblingsoffaith/p/my-story?r=q9ex1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Love your response,so deeply rooted in faith.
Ruth, the gift God has given me in this pandemic is that He has forced me to put my faith in Him. I am suffering real consequence. I received my termination date a few days ago. I am forced to find a new job in this crazy environment, with this "mark" now on my record. I am forced with the choice to be silent or be vocal about my choice. I am forced to explain over and over again. The more I explain, the more I seek guidance from Him, the more strength I find. I have never had this strength before. I have a sheet of Bible verses by my computer, which I add to, as His word comes to me and give me strength and speak to these times. I am forced to explain my choice to colleagues and clients who do not want to see me go. I have had time to prepare and spent much time in tears and in grief. I hope that I am now at the point of grace and acceptance. He may have begun to reveal His plan for the next part in my career - though I still have to pass some hurdles and the important step of sharing my truth. I could not do this without the strength He provides. And I find the ability to be thankful that He has used this to force me to rely on Him. To be a witness to my children. To watch my teen son grow more responsible, to see him learn to appreciate the value of freedom and the responsibility that comes with that. If I can go on this anonymous forum and show grace, it is because I have had to daily pray for grace as I deal with this drawn out and painful termination process. As I have to find the ability to not shoot the messenger who is forced to carry out my punishment, but who does not want to punish me and who will suffer real harm with my departure. I'm not fully where I want to be, but I am trying to get there. And I have put a lot of thought into this. How do I go out acting with integrity and living true to my values? I do it by showing grace (by which, for the avoidance of doubt, I do not mean I do not protect my legal rights - I will seek justice). And, if God reveals His plan and job loss is limited, I will use some of the bounty (income) He provides to help others who are fighting for freedom.
God bless you Jennifer. I am tracking with you completely. You expressed your thoughts beautifully - forgiveness is what we're aiming at. Doesn't mean we're excusing the wrong or justifying the people who committed it. Some people left judgmental comments about your thoughts/feelings. You weren't telling anyone else what they should do, just what you were trying to do in forgiving. I appreciate your honesty and openness. Also, for what it's worth, Jesus Christ said to do more than just forgive, He actually tells His followers to love our enemies - Wow. That's absolutely impossible without God's supernatural help. Praying for you and may God continue to guide you and provide for you.
Your response brought tears to my eyes. Very powerful message. May God continue to guide you and give you strength. I greatly admire your fortitude, so lacking in many. I refused to wear a mask except at doctor office. My rebellion was minimal as I’m retired, so never had to deal with possible termination, only fear for the overall damage inflicted on so many. I fear for family members who were vaccinated, including grandchildren. Some by choice who now regret after reading the truth about these so-called vaccines, some who still feel protected & virtuous, and two of my four grandkids who were fed untruths and led by their parents to vaccinate (all for no reason as healthy 10 & 13 kids are at no risk). My one son went early for jab while pressuring me. I told him to not mention it to me ever again. My other son did at last minute by force to not be terminated. He felt he had no choice. It’s all so terribly wrong. God bless you. I pray your career continues with many blessings.
Same here. They vaxxed my 5 and 7 year old grand kids BEFORE IT WAS APPROVED! They “pulled some strings” and trusted their doctor. The MD’s were fed false info. I begged everyone in my family before any shit - (I meant to type shot, sorry) was even available not to get it. I told them people were dropping dead from it. None of them listened.
Jennifer, I don't know if you are still reading these responses, but know you aren't alone. Last November I had to make a choice, quit my job or submit a religious exemption request to possibly keep it. I just couldn't submit that exemption request because I refused to use God to comply with an unjust and demonic system of poisonous shots. God told me, don't do it. I quit my job and the peace I received from it is more than you can know. I know I'm not a hypocrite, and speak out freely about the mandates and God has my back. Do I have a new job yet? Nope. Will I get one - who knows? By God's grace I am in a financial situation right now that allows me to be removed from society. What the future holds, is anybody's guess.
Napoleon, that financial freedom is great, isn't it? It gives us freedom to make choices that are consistent with our values. I did struggle with the decision to file a religious exemption, but I firmly believe that God gave me direction on this, so I ultimately did - even though I also believe strongly that my right of choice in this matter transcends my religious views. I know others who made the choice you made, and I respect that choice. Good luck with your job search. I myself will slow-play, respond to jobs that cross my desk that look promising, and focus on a search in the fall (unless something comes into play before that). I too have financial freedom and am so glad that has always been a part of my psyche. I hope that the need for financial freedom permeates free thinkers so that they can also have the financial freedom to make the choices that correspond with their values. I don't know that I would have had the strength to make this choice if I was concerned about providing for my family. Stay strong. YOU are not alone either.
To this community who has given me strength, I passed an important hurdle yesterday in this job that seems to be made for me that serendipitously appeared in my inbox, by way of a recruiter. Third interview (many more to go, my industry), but it was time to be transparent. I had researched the company's values and knew that they only have a vax requirement in the NYC office because required by law. If hired, I will be remote but must go to NYC monthly - so policy applies to me. So I prayed for wisdom and strength and the right words, I pressed the interviewer on the corporate values and whether she felt they were lived, I read some of their words about diversity of views and candid and honest conversations. And I told her my status. She responded that her spouse was unvaxxed and that they administered exemptions out of the state of headquarters (not New York, but a state that has embraced freedom). And she asked me if my company was doing the right thing with regards to my deferred comp. When I replied no, she said that companies will have a reckoning regarding the choices they made in COVID. I didn't know what to expect, I just knew that I had to be transparent to be consistent with my values. To be treated with such grace and respect, by a woman assigned to the NYC office (though who lives in a more rural area north of the City) gave me hope. This may be God's plan for me. She is right, there will be a reckoning, and I know at my Company that the employees who know me and work with me are not happy with the Company's choice and "my people, " all of whom made a different choice, have supported my right to make my choice and have vocally supported the fact that I stayed true to my beliefs. Thank you all for your support, your words of encouragement, the stories you have shared that emphasize how important it is for all of us to stand up for freedom of religion, freedom of medical autonomy, freedom of speech, etc, etc.
Thank you for whoever liked this on July 25. Update- as has been clear to me throughout, God has had a plan for me. Part one was for me to be removed from the environment that was my prior employer. The pressure of working in an environment inconsistent with my values was making me not healthy at home. Part two was to.give me.choices in new opportunities. I ultimately received two offers. I hope I followed God's plan with the choice I made. It has risk, but also potential upside, and most importantly, it has less travel. My kids still need me present at home. I know everyone came to those decision differently. For me, God gave me clarity, that the natural immunity He gave me was all I needed, consequences be damned. He gave me direction and hope, while I made a decision that potentially had far-reaching consequence for my family. He put me in a situation where I had to have faith that He would live up to His promises. I come out stronger and with restored Job opportunities. I will share a portion of the bounty (a paycheck) He has given me to pay it forward. Thank you to this community for your support.
I still need to work on forgiveness. I have moments of anger, grief and sadness toward the many for whom I have lost respect - not for their choice to get vaxxed but rather their refusal to stand up to the actions that said "othering"/discrimination was okay. That continued to go along with it even as their lived experience did not live up to the promises that "justified" exclusion. For those who have othered, I will freely forgive and embrace you with acknowledgement. And I will try to forgive regardless. For those who have supported my choice different from your choice, thank you. It was the few of you - and my faith - that kept me going.
May your faith continue to lead you and bless you in countless ways. Those who decided against this sham vaccine may never know what health issues we dodged, but can give thanks to God for giving us the strength and guidance to know what we felt and knew to be the right choice. Those who were pressured by their doctors or by employment policies, I pray for your health.
I’m not sure what your occupation is but I heard Red Balloon is a conservative job site. I work for the Catholic Church and my Diocese does not require the shots.
They do know 'exactly' what they're doing. It's forgiving the devil himself.
My 2 cents: forgiveness can only come with repentance. I'm under no obligation to forgive if you if you will continue to harm others. These psychos should be shunned at the very least, but their crimes should have light shined upon them constantly.
As long as there is still the Emergency Use Authorization and no ability to sue for damages, they are still a menace on the loose who need to be confronted and have their crimes exposed, if only to save others from being lured into a bad fate.
Money damages should mean nothing to anyone who loses a loved one to the shots.
Exactly
I don't like how Substack distributes responses sometimes. It makes me look like I'm agreeing with all the cherry picked, cloying sweetness and light, 'come drown in my eternal understanding and forgiveness bs.' There is a time for forgiveness, but this isn't it. This is jumping in with the god card to let those poor little perpetrators of mass murder and grievous injury off of the hook. This is 'look at how loving and kind and forgiving I am' and you'd better be also because "The Religion." This is the pied piper leading people that have every right to work their way through all of this to clarity, right back into the darkness so they can shut up and have some more. There is a time for forgiveness, but not until you have reached authentic understanding- something you actually have to work for and fight your way through. Anyone that runs around offering forgiveness after seeing the massive list of side effects and horrific results of the mRNA trials, (released under court order just yesterday) and knowing that the FDA saw it before they approved the poison for the masses is just way too good for this world.
I don't want to speak for Jennifer, but for me this is a personal process. I'm not talking about letting people off the hook, just how I approach them mentally, emotionally, and spiritually ... and how I approach myself, my place in the world, my own mental health.
Vernon, you captured it well. Thank you.
Just b/c I said I was praying for Grace to get thru this and to deal with my family and friends who bought into this madness does not mean I am not also praying for justice as well. My last prayer on the last decade of my daily rosary is for an end to this false pandemic, an end to any mandates for people to take the mRNA shots and punishment for those responsible for perpetrating this evil upon the world.
I can ask for grace for forgiveness for those near and dear to me who were duped and still ask for punishment for the evil doers pushing their godless agenda. One doesn't trump the other...
Exactly. Justice will come, in this world or the next. I can forgive the ignorant ("forgive them Father for they do not know what they do), and still pray and expect justice. I have a personal prayer campaign against Fauci. It started in January at the height of his demonic power. Where is he now? He is on the run. Should he be strung up? Yes. Will he be? I can hope. But I do know his eternal soul is damned and he is very old and soon to die.
I am angry as anyone. It is now affecting my health. Forgiveness seems impossible if I approach it alone, but Jesus Christ, I cannot live with all this bitterness balled up in me for much longer.
MCZ, that’s why Mark Oshinski and other substacks are helpful. Like Mark said ,” find like minded people”. You are not alone MCZ…
Did you just call Christianity “BS?” Also, as Fauci said to Ron Paul, “ You do not know what you are talking about.” I meant Dr. Rand Paul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmJ1kYcnnM
Are you affirming Fauci as having said something true and worthwhile?
No, I am not. I am referring to an exchange in some kind of senate hearing. I meant to say RAND Paul. DOCTOR Rand Paul said that Fauci's outfit DID fund Gain of Function research. Fauci lied and said, "You do not know what you are talking about." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmJ1kYcnnM
Uh oh.. the guilt police have arrived to twist everything around with the jesus card and make sure we stay in our cages! Took long enough. You guys are usually right on it. Btw, Jesus was a warrior, not a simp. Also, did you just imply that the biggest mass murderer in history was some kind of authority and that we should all take him seriously? Even after the just released Pfizer docs prove that the Experimental Gene Therapy is 12 times deadlier than the virus ever was to everyone under the age of 80?
I was referring to the famous video where Fauci tells Dr. Rand Paul that he (Dr. Paul) does not know what he is talking about, when Dr. Paul confronts him with evidence that Fauci's organization certainly DID fund Gain of Function.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmJ1kYcnnM
It's been widely circulated because it's just another time when Fauci lied, big, bold, and loud.
Now I don't know what you are talking about. My comment was that Christianity is not BS and anyone who says it is does not know what they are talking about.
Where can one get access to the mRNA documents released yesterday?
The list of vaccine side effects that Pfizer wanted to keep secret until 2097, but was ordered by a judge to release yesterday starts on page 30 in the linked document below and the side effects go on for NINE PAGES.
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
Thanks! But wasn't there supposed to be several thousand pages released? Or is that something else?
Is there anything NOT on that list?! I have never seen anything like this!
Candis thanks for that.
Hearting this comment--so true.
Indeed. There needs to be justice done, there needs to be compensation for all the damage. There needs to be liability for the jabs, all jabs. And for all those that ran in the treadmill, I have no consideration. There was plenty of information even though they tried to block it. I have no medical schooling but could see quickly this was not about health. And still the ones with the biology degrees don't see. That is just not wanting to see and resembles a cult. I will still help them because they are in need, but that is as far as I go.
That's my delimma and I am not religious per say, probably more spiritual in my beliefs. But I guess in the end it's pretty much the same thing. In your heart you know what is right but applying it in every day life is hard. I at this point will never forgive any governing body. As for friends and family I will try to show compassion for how they reacted in spite of the fact that they hurt me deeply. The irony is even if I extend my understanding and compassion to these people it may make no difference. These people may not welcome this stance because in the end they may never admit they were wrong. So, do we in the end, agree to disagree and move on? At this point in time I don't think it's going to happen overnight.
We are finding out the ones who knew!
Might be a tad premature with the sweetness and light. What even makes you think that they are done with you yet?
Candis I don’t think they are anywhere near done.
See today’s El Gato Malo article “If I Were Going to Conquer You”. This isn’t over by any stretch….
Are you referring to the people pulling strings or the Coronamaniacs who were themselves brainwashed and harmed?
Brainwashed and harmed enough to demand the unvaccinated be denied medical care, jobs, even their very lives? No, there is something deep down evil there.
Yes. They are harming themselves, but they are guilty too. At some point ignorance can no longer be pleaded as absolution. Though the puppeteers are far guiltier since they know what's going on. I am not full of sweetness and light by the way. I am very angry.
Exactly!
Being scammed and taking the shot is forgivable. It was a poor choice, made under deception and coercion.
We can all forgive that.
Being cruel and abusive to your former friends, family, and neighbors is not mere stupidity, and should not be forgiven without contrition. I don't free passes for cruelty the foundation for a just society I want to live in.
That was a really good comment. I think we are all wrestling with this issue. As much as I would like to forgive these people, I, at this point can't. If covid could cause such a rift in personal relationships how would these same people, that we thought we trusted and loved, could ever be trusted again in another so called life threatening crisis.
I realize a lot of people in these stacks are coming from an evangelical Christian perspective in which forgiveness is a central theme and concept and are going to assign different value to it than others including myself.
I think the signal that gets lost in the language is that "forgive" is very often being used- again, for specific cultural reasons like the aforementioned- as a stand-in for "move on from your anger at the injury and don't let it consume you," and I think this is solid advice no matter what your spiritual background is (even if it's "None").
When I was still in private practice, the majority of my clients were nursing childhood wounds that had not had direct impact on their lives for years- the parent or other abuser was long out of their lives, often even dead, and the specific abuses had long ago stopped having any direct impact on them apart from living rent-free in their heads. Their injuries became an essential part of their identity in the same sense that COVID became the essential identity of Covidians- it gave their existence meaning, purpose, and a tribe ("hello, fellow <blank> survivors!"). It had become something VALUABLE instead of something actually unwanted.
This is what is often meant by "forgive," that gets lost in the weeds because people hear "absolve" or "reward injury." It means acknowledging that a thing happened, that its circumstances may or may not be in your control, and moving forward from the thing. It means renegotiating what your relationship to the person means in light of what their behavior reveals about themselves- in a rational way, while realizing you are also imperfect- and that can include ending the relationship or seeking restitution.
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Exactly. Couldn't say it any better. Forgive AND FORGET is not what us Christians were taught. People use the term forgive and the term forget interchangably. If you do that then yes, forgiving means you are a punching bag. When you forgive in the Christian sense, you NEVER FORGET.
Excellent commentary about forgiveness. I guess the hardest thing about this is the feeling of betrayal by those who love you and those we love. I've never been able to embrace being a covidian, but agree there are many people who have. It seems to give them a purpose and a sense of belonging to a tribe. I think these people are going to have a really tough time letting go of the mandates and mask wearing and everything covid.
Why do you assume people are Evangelical Christians? That is a big assumption.
"A lot of people in these stacks" <> "I assume everyone is an evangelical Christian." I know because they have explicitly stated they are. Some of them are friendly fans of my own stack, in fact.
Do you need a better excuse to be offended or pick an argument? I can definitely give you one.
Sure, go for it. I wasn't offended, I just thought it was a bold assumption. Most religions promote forgiveness, including Jews, Muslims, Catholics and more. I am not an evangelical Christian, but I know that there is a prejudice against them.
Forgive your enemies but remember their names.
And their addresses. And their friends. Likely your enemies not yet met.
There are many comments about Christian forgiveness.
To all such commenters, an earnest Q: Should we empty all the prisons to manifest our forgiveness?
Polls showed that many of these people would have imprisoned you for not vaxxing or made you give up your children or fined you into bankruptcy.
Mark, beautiful essay. You said well what we all feel. I said that I need to forgive FOR ME, not for them. God has called me to forgive. In my mind, forgiveness does not mean that we don't seek justice, at least for the evil that perpetrated this. I will certainly seek justice vis a vis my employer. I hope to see the evil behind the misinformation and propaganda and grotesque profiting brought to justice - because if there is no justice, this will happen again.
I have not fully reached a place where I have forgiven. I pray for that place. I imagine that my journey to forgiveness will be crooked. It will be easier to forgive those who treated me poorly because they acted out of fear or coercion, it will be harder to forgive those who enacted discriminatory policies, it will be even harder to forgive the evil behind this. Emotionally, though, I will need to do so, while also seeking justice, or pushing for justice, where appropriate.
Forgive doesn't mean forget. Forgive doesn't mean let it happen again.
Please continue to put your thoughts down on paper to share with all of us, because you are so eloquent and thought-provoking, even if I cannot agree with every word.
Thanks, Jennifer.
What you say about forgiveness is wise and kind.
I have devalued various friendships based on what has happened. This decision was not a matter of forgiveness or refusal to forgive. It's discernment; knowing who apprehends reality and who doesn't.
My forgiveness is not directed towards officials in government or pharma executives or bosses or HR directors, etc. .... my forgiveness is directed towards family members and close friends who were duped by this madness. Everyone else should face the same end that those found guilty in the Nazi war crime trials after WWII faced...
No. Forgiveness is a personal decision. Justice is the court's department. Not mercy. If you choose not to forgive them, I understand why.
I think people confuse 'forgive' and 'accept'. Forgiveness requires action on the transgressors part. They must acknowledge they wronged you, show remorse, try to make amends. And you cannot forgive someone for something they did to another, e.g. I forgive you for murdering my son. You can't forgive on someone's behalf. I choose to accept if the other party is not seeking forgiveness. I accept that my ex-husband stole marital assets from me (and many other things,) I accept I should have been less trusting. I do this to not dwell and stress myself out. But no, I have not forgiven him. He maintains he did nothing wrong. You do not forgive people like that.
Maintaining an attitude of forgiveness is possible. But they can't be forgiven if they won't accept it. You're correct.
I can only forgive them because I'm a Christian. But forgiving requires acknowledging there was wrong done. So, I agree with you and Mark both.
Well said, thank you for bringing Grace back into the thread!
I've seen this so many times -- people acted out of "fear". Untrue. People felt fear and then acted out their 𝙘𝙤𝙬𝙖𝙧𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙚. That's the difference. Fear is understandable. Cowardice is unacceptable -- especially when indulging it means collaboration with mass destruction. Unacceptable and unforgiveable.
Sorry I can't forgive right now, maybe never, all of this was done with one goal in mind, MONEY, POWER and the chance to manipulate and turn citizens into scared lab rats
Amen, Amen, Amen!!!
Beautiful message. I need to pray for grace, as I’m not ready to forgive yet.
Yes Jennifer. It is in pardoning that we are pardoned. I agree with all you say.
It is not finished. Only yesterday I was reading a serious article following careful research that the shedding that is occurring from the vaxxed is causing blood clotting and other issues for the unvaxxed. Very recently research is saying that shedding is not a possibility but a certainty and with perhaps 5 billion vaxxed people in the world this is a sad reality we face together both vaxxed and unvaxxed.
I thank you Mark for this. May your endeavours prosper. Well done.
Thank you Hippocrates Health Centre for this and all the good work you do to help us to look after our bodies and to combat the evil in the health industry and to find the good.
Thank you substack for assisting Mark to bring this to us. You are an answer to a prayer.
Thank you God. Please help us through this which we have unwittingly brought upon ourselves.
Well-said, Mark. I still remember standing in my living room and staring out the window in March 2020 not understanding how ALL the world leaders were calling for a lock-down. My question at the time was, "How would they all do this at the same time? How does it happen in such a coordinated way?" So that started me on the journey to seek the truth which wasn't provided by the MSM. That's how I got educated. I knew something wasn't right. I trusted my hunch and started digging. I certainly NEVER trusted the shots which we've now learned are likely a bio-weapon. I work with those that are triple-jabbed and I wonder how long they have before they drop dead. It bothers me. I tried to stop them from getting the jab. I shared what I had discovered but they were and are so brain-washed, nothing would prevent them from buying into the bullshit. So now here we are. Waiting for the rest of the dystopian story.
Great observation about the global coordination. What a huge red flag that something sinister was brewing.
Spiritual warfare.
Yes, the rest of the dystopian story, and what that looks like.
Will it be a slow die off of the jabbed, over many years? That seems to be the suggestion from many lifelong scientists that have been cancelled for stating their warnings.
Cancers, sudden deaths, strokes, auto-immune diseases, VAIDS, etc. Many chose to be Guinea pigs, some were coerced.
And then there’s the damaged relationships thanks to the buy in of propaganda, by the gullible. We have that, former friends, and divided family, including our suddenly demanding, hypochondriac daughter, who is holding back visitation from our grandson, whom we saw weekly until just before Christmas. We are at a deadlock, she makes new demands all the time. Yet, we WERE supporting them financially, but that has stopped. So has the free babysitting, which she now pays for. She is being stupid, and paying for it.
But we refuse to wear masks in OUR house, for her pleasure.
We also realize it’s her life, and while sad about not seeing our grandson, we realize if we moved 300 miles away (which is in our retirement plans), it wouldn’t be an issue.
Covid jabs have fried people’s brains. Until they die.
It's sad when our children join cults. I was not welcome to see my newborn grand daughter 5-6 years ago because I didn't like Hillary and said so. And of course, I was not permitted to visit the grandkids during the lock down. So stupid. And what a loss for the grandkids. I am 65 and think about my granny every day. Her house is still my happy place. I learned so much from her and idolized her.
Am so sorry to hear your daughter is still keeping your grandson away from you. It's heartbreaking what covid has done to so many relationships.
Enjoyed your comments. Like you, from nearly the beginning of the covid narrative, I felt something was wrong and began to research everything to do with it. Most people I know who took the jab did little to no research. And they certainly weren't interested in mine.
Yes, its been a lonely journey. But I have also found some others, like those here, that have the same thoughts. That is helpful!
"how long they have before they drop dead." I assume you are talking about the ones who haven't already dropped dead. Because there are an awful lot of them.
Yes.
These feelings all need to be acknowledged. I totally agree.
I am also going to point out that the Coronamaniac behaviors on both/all sides are very much like an abusive relationship.
The controllers behind the scenes manipulating the public officials into being the abusers, and the general public being the victims. The very gaslighting behaviors of "oh, hey, now you don't need to wear the masks anymore; COVID is over!" is just like the abuser who pretends like none of it ever happened, and you are crazy for imagining it.
The "Coronamaniacs" -- most of them -- are victims. They are the ones who bought into the gaslighting and they are STILL BRAINWASHED, even if they take off their masks and now feel "safe." I will also add -- for NOW -- because do not think for one moment that this abuse is "over." This is all part of the cycle of abuse, where it ramps up in intensity and then it calms down and the abuser pretends it never happened, and the victim forgets it ever happened.
We who saw through this the entire time are rightfully pissed off. But it is the abusers who inflicted this onto us -- they manipulated our loved ones into destroying our valued relationships.
We are victims, too. We have been placed into an impossible position where we cannot break through the brainwashing of our loved ones, coworkers, community members. It is infuriating that so many lives have been destroyed by these lying liars. I want my loved ones BACK.
I'm angry that they were made fearful. I'm angry that they shunned, thinking they were doing the right thing: they have been (and are still!) under a spell. It's so evil.
Betrayal by those whom you trust is the WORST injury. And it has been like the most horrifying horror movie to see people I know well, people I always trusted or thought of as very intelligent, capable of good decision making, turned nothing more than marionettes, tools of the machine. Their minds absolutely destroyed.
While the rest of us are looking at the devastation, seeing it so clearly. Shouting at them, almost, to not get jabbed.... and then they do. And then they tell us we are the selfish idiots. Our parents, our children, our siblings.... turning US into the enemy. All because their minds were captured and twisted.
The destruction of these relationships and the faith I used to have in my fellow men's ability to maintain the ability for critical thinking when under assault..... why some were vulnerable to it and others were not. These are going to be the lessons we as a people need to learn and drill into those of us who remain, and our descendants.
It's not over yet.
Victims and abusers. A Covid Karen is a victim from gaslighting/isolation. But screaming curses at an unmasked 5-year-old in a store makes her an abuser too. Victims often double as abusers.
I worked in child protective services. Many of the genuinely abusive parents we investigated (the overwhelming majority of reports were unfounded) had been abused themselves in some form or another, by their caregivers. The concept of generational abuse was not unknown to us.
That didn't stop us from dealing with them like the criminals they were, nor did it shield them from the consequences of their actions.
Nor should it.
I agree. Sadly, the biggest criminals/abusers are beyond justice. For now.
That's the dance.
Yes, this, exactly! I am so filled with anger at what has happened and the relationships and friendships, and families destroyed by this evil.
No, we are NOT out of the woods. In fact, I fear we may be trapped in the forest.
I don't agree that the people you speak of were somehow 'captured' and were not the very same people to begin with. Not so much a destruction as it is a revelation, imo.
The reason why I believe this is because I used to be more susceptible to brainwashing; I became redpilled about 10 years ago. This could have been me. I could have been a COVID Karen, had I not woken up prior to the COVID propaganda programming. My loved ones, however, have continued to have faith in trusted institutions, and they have bought the propaganda hook, line and sinker. But it goes beyond willingly believing or following.... they are literally hypnotized at this point and have no idea.
I think our public officials are a combination of people who are unwitting tools (brainwashed, probably well meaning) and people who are corrupt/knowingly doing this (either bribed or blackmailed).
I know that there are people who do not seem to be capable of change, and this Covidmania is revealing the true character that was there all along, underneath fake smiles. But I know myself well: I WAS a Karen type of person, well meaning, believing myself to be "a good person," thought I was "right." And then I accidentally learned that everything I had been using as a foundation for my beliefs were lies. I learned that I was betrayed by a bunch of corrupt, self-serving liars, and also that there was a deeper agenda.... it was devastating to learn this. I was angry, I was ashamed, I was outraged, I was humiliated. Everything I'd built my life on was a lie, and I'd been bamboozled. My faith and trust were destroyed for a period of time, and I had to rebuild.
But coming to terms with the harsh reality, as opposed to my prior false reality, inoculated me against COVID brainwashing. I have to believe there are other fundamentally good people who have been taken in by this massive false reality, manipulated into doing harm to others while believing themselves to be "good people." Some will wake up, and when they learn how they were tricked into being tools of the evil puppetmasters, they will be devastated. Corruption of innocents.
Chronically ill from iatrogenic damage. Managed to escape that abusive doctor and heal a little. Then THIS nightmare occurs. I'm terrified of falling into the hands of abusive "medical experts" more than dying. If others knew they would be far more frightened of where we're being dragged than the plague itself.
I like "managed to escape" from an abusive doctor. I am escaping from almost all doctors now. They certainly have a tendancy to do more harm than good.
That is so true.
How did you get red pilled? I have got to find a way to wake up my husband.
I sympathize with your plight. It was entirely accidental, and it was about ten years ago. I was poking about on the internet, looking for some solutions to one of my children's health conditions at the time, and I stumbled upon some intriguing information I'd never heard before, about how the Rockefeller medical schools had actually suppressed many natural treatments and cures in favor of their patent medicines, and that doctors were being indoctrinated to believe that natural medicines were inferior, or "old wives' tales."
From there, I was curious enough to research some more, because I had never heard this before.... I wanted to know if it was true or not. Turned out to be true! So then I looked more deeply and found that this type of suppression of natural medicines (think "first, do no harm") had been going on for thousands of years.
I learned that when a health supplement says "this product has not been evaluated by the FDA" that is because legally they are required to print that! It doesn't mean the product is harmful or ineffective, but that's what you think, if you don't realize..... also that the FDA DOES NOT EVALUATE SUPPLEMENTS. This is lying by implication. Your mind leaps to make an assumption -- your mind goes where "they" want it to go.
I became interested in the topic of hypnosis, propaganda, brainwashing and delved into that for awhile.
Next, I uncovered the materials about the secret medical experiments that had been done to people, and were still being done to people. I learned about informed consent. I learned about other things which maybe were or were not conspiracy theories, such as fluoride.
Once I started researching, I just kept going. But two things about that: the censorship ten years ago was not as severe as it is now -- it was much easier to find that information. It's still possible, but you need to know how to get around the censorship. The other thing is that I drove this myself -- no one pushed me to do it. I was simply curious. I think no one could have told me; I wouldn't have believed them. I was (and still am) such a skeptic. But once you see, you can't unsee. And once you start to realize you've been lied to, you have to wonder, what ELSE have "they" been lying to me about? So you turn over a few more rocks.....
I hope your husband can wake up. Try showing him, if he will look, some of the dissonance between what is real and what is being presented on the "news." For example, the Trucker convoy is not at all as it is being presented. It's massive and the news will barely report on it. I guess that is the type of thing which redpilled me.... seeing the contrast between what I was being manipulated to think and believe, and what I was seeing with my own eyes.
"I was simply curious." That right there. Those who refuse to listen or read or search are completely incurious. They might discover something that they base their identity on is actually not true and then they would have an identity crisis.
My second red pill was reading the biographies of the MK Ultra executive sex slaves. After that, I doubted everything and everyone. My first was when a friend told me about 9/11. It was about ten years after the event, and I had never even heard such a theory.
I too learned about 9-11 about ten years after the event. I was shocked that I had never before come across that information. And then.... many other bits and pieces of information I'd collected over the years began to come together and quite a different picture emerged, than that which had been taught to me.
I believe part of the brainwashing program (similar to MKUltra programming) is to "look away" or "don't go there" or "use our fact checkers" or "that source has been discredited. Whatever you do, DON'T LOOK." So of course, that's where I'd want to look. ;)
👍👍👍👍 Great explanation!
The red pill is very hard to swallow for many people and how someone gets to “enlightenment” is a personal journey. What works for some won’t work for others.
My mom has woken up a bit. She refused her booster when all of her neighbors and friends got it - so I’m getting there.
I think there are many possibilities to getting someone to see reality. I’m a numbers and data guy so I have my mom a lot of data and helped her make sense of it. Substack has been very helpful. Dr. Malone and el gato malo are probably the two that I’ve used with her the most.
Infowars is also a great source but I started small. The COVIDland movies are excellent. Both made her cry. RFK Jar’s book The Real Anthony Fauci is also excellent. She didn’t finish it but if someone were to read that book and check some references to see that it’s factual, there is no way they could stay asleep. John Abramson’s new book Sickening (I’ve not yet read it) might be a good red pill too. I’ve seen him on a few podcasts and he’s definitely seen the real side of big pharma.
I have a theory that Alex Jones is controlled opposition. Most of his info is correct, but then "They" have him throw in some nonsense so that they can label everything he says as Conspiracy Theory. Because the term "Conspiracy Theory" is actually a tool to cover up the truth. I like to think of my self as a "Conspiracy Therapist."
FWIW - my "red-pilling" was accidental/peripheral, too.
In an attempt to change my diet/lifestyle 11 years ago, I came to understand that "conventional wisdom" is often wrong (sometimes REALLY wrong). I did my own research and found solutions and paths that worked FOR ME.
Since then, I have questioned everything that is touted as a panacea/one-size-fits-all solution. This situation was no different.
Unfortunately, just like changing a diet, you can't change someone's mind/opinion unless they are willing to do so - ESPECIALLY in the case of mass formation!
1000% this.
Wow, when I read this, I thought it was me talking. You completely expressed everything I have felt from the very beginning of this Plandemic, and I salute you 1000 fold for saying it all out loud...every little fucking bit! I will also never forgive, and for certain will not forget! They must pay, all of them, every last one. This is the only way to move forward. Justice needs to happen.
Screw "forgive and forget" - I want real justice. I want Fauci et al to spend the rest of their lives in jail. The just punishment would be the death penalty, but I would much rather see that scum languish in a 6' x 10' cell until they die.
I'm reminded of what happened to Somoza.
And similar events throughout history. We all need to start talking openly about them. We also ALL need to start talking openly about tearing down the existing government structure - as The Constitution gives us the right - and reform it in the way it was intended by the founders. Strength in numbers - works every time.
Read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK jr. He should have been in prison for his handling of aids and all the deaths he caused back then.
Read it as well. He's been playing these dangerous games with the lives of people for decades. It's about time he faced the music.
It’s way way way past time!
Exactly. My first thought when I heard that he was still around and in charge was...WTF! The same guy who was going to cure AIDS and the best he could do what come up with an insane medicine protocol? The same guy who's bungled so many other things? Fanfreakingtastic...
A sealed bat cave.
Under a jail.
Jailtime is to lenient; I think a fatal injection.
Put him in jail and give him a Pfizer shot every month until he suffers from the poisons he's pushed on so many other people... Biden and the rest as well.
Wonderful piece. May I be so arrogant as to check you on one point though.
"enabled the election of a clearly incompetent and corrupt individual"
Change election to installation and we're good.
There is no way that shit for brains Brandon got even 10% of those votes.
I stand corrected.
Agree!
Yep. FJB couldn't even draw flies. It's been proven six ways from Sunday. We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, etc.
I was singled out at work, and it created most likely a permanent division in our family those who bought into the injection became very tyrannical against those who didnt almost to insanity. I've lost trust in many and those with high credentials have lost all my respect in them based on their illogical imposition to receive the injection, it will take me along time to forgive them but its based on them, if they actually apologize. I'm just thankful I stayed the course and many followed me. Sincerely Sharon
Well done for staying pure in the face of coercion. I am lucky enough to not have had pressure placed on me by family. They just think I'm crazy, which is fine.
I sort of work in retail and it makes my black little heart happy to see the incomprehension on other peoples faces when they discover that I'm unjabbed.
For those who try and pressure others to get the jab; I hope that your God forgives you, because there is not a hope in hell that I ever will.
Yup, my thoughts exactly. And I'll never forget the degree of viciousness that so many people casually adopted. The unbridled hatred just came from these people so readily, it's breathtaking. This has been a hard lesson to endure. That of having to acknowledge how so many people really are under their fake "how're ya doin' today?" smile. Conversely, I've also learned which of the people that I know have something decent deep down. Unfortunately, that is scarcely few.
100% agree with all that, and superbly well articulated Mark. I have a slightly different angle on the politics though since I am not in the US. Biden is everything you described and more, but he is just a puppet. There are identical puppets all over the western (and more) world, all enacting the same totalitarianism as the Democrat admin pulling Biden’s strings.
I just don’t want to lose focus on where the rot starts, it’s above the POTUS’ pay grade. It starts with the Rothschilds of the world. Gates, Soros et al, they are gophers, facilitators. The politicians like Biden are just shop window dressing to sustain the facade of democracy.
I agree. But all politics is local.
I was just invited to a wedding that will occur in May, invitation stated that guests had to be vaccinated for "everyone's safety". I laughed, sent back the RSVP saying my wife and I wouldn't attend, and crossed that jackass out of my life.
"crossed that jackass out of my life" Made me laugh :) I share your thoughts.
Bahahah. They meant for everyone's virtue signalling...
Extremely well written piece. Thanks for posting.
Yes many were falsely lead that these shots were gonna save them and give them their freedom back.
Fine.
Those that took the shot to feed their family I totally understand.
That is coercion.
Yet when they attacked me for my right to bodily autonomy and told me ( family members that I could not be around them unvaccinated)
No matter how much data or info I sent them.
I believe their usual response was fake news.
I don’t believe they even read.
My one sister called my choice confounding ?
As she declared she was so grateful her whole family was boosted. Young adults.
How do I just go ok fine let’s just move on?
I feel betrayed. Not only by the government, but my family of origin.
There is a difference between forgiving someone and excusing mistreatment.
I can forgive, they no not what they do, but I cannot excuse bad behavior.
I loved your house burning down analogy.
Thank you Mark.
I will stand strong in my own worth and belief.
I believe that at least some of them WILL wake up to what they've done. And when they do, they will be devastated..... knowing they gave or encouraged their kids to have these shots, believing they were protecting them and doing the right thing. And shunning their beloved family members who saw through the bullshit lies and did not get the shots.... when these otherwise "good people" learn the truth, how they were manipulated and brainwashed into believing and acting in the exact opposite of their and their children's best interests, how they were manipulated into perpetrating evil upon their fellow man.... it's going to be so horrible for them to live with themselves. Should we then not forgive them?
The ones who learn the truth but then try to cover up their actions and just pretend it never happened -- that's how you will tell them apart.
I'm the only one in my family who didn't get the shot. I've already confronted the possibility that I alone might survive in the months and years to come. It's so unfair. It's so cruel. I want my kids to be able to have kids of their own, have long and happy lives. It's all a big unknown.
I agree.
More to be revealed.
I pray for all of us.
Well said. One small correction..."A shot that no reasonably healthy person under 70 should have even considered"....I would say no one should have considered it. Ever.
I agree. But I'm considering that a lot of old people were freaked out about only having a 97% survival rate.
I read a study (no link, sorry) that under 80 should not take the vaxx, risks vs. benefits.
I agree. 80 is a better number.
Frankly, I haven't yet been convinced that the vax confers any benefits to anyone of any age. My daughter is a nurse in a rehab/nursing facility. She has seen a lot of people in their 80's, 90's, even a couple over 100 get covid and not do all that badly. They were just old, not sick. Others who were younger and who died WITH but not from covid were basically on a kind of death watch when they entered the facility in the first place. They were going to die before long and that's when they were put in the hospital, and it was just a matter of when it would happen.
I’m an academic looking to exit the scam of “higher ed.” That last paragraph took the words right out of my mouth. Universities across the country have blood on their hands. Just being on campus among these people makes me sick to my stomach.
What a sad state of affairs. Praying for healing on every level.